Opened 12 years ago

Closed 12 years ago

#733 closed defect (wontfix)

Group header doesn't show how many buddies

Reported by: Nukkels Owned by: seanegan
Milestone: 2.0.2 Component: pidgin (gtk)
Version: 2.0 Keywords: group header


The group header still shows (for example): [+]MSN (15/37) But if I click the [+] to expand it, then all I see is: [-]MSN No numbers...

Is this a bug, or was it intentional? I always thought it was useful to know how many buddies were online, especially when it's more than fits in the height of the buddy list window.

Change History (4)

comment:1 Changed 12 years ago by deryni

  • pending changed from 0 to 1

The change was intentional, originally the numbers were removed altogether as the thought was that you really don't ever need to know. That was quickly commented on and the group numbers were added back to collapsed groups under the theory that you might want to know if there are online buddies/contacts that you can't currently see.

In what way is it useful to you to know how many buddies are online in a group?

comment:2 Changed 12 years ago by Nukkels

  • pending changed from 1 to 0

I have my groups defined by protocol (ie MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, etc). Generally, most of my buddies are MSN users, and many of them just leave their MSN account on, even when they're not home. They can fairly quickly fill up the buddy window, and the other users which are genuinely there are pushed below (because they are just idle or whatever reason). If I see that 8 users are online, and can see them all, it's not useful to know how many, but if I can see that I have 15 buddies online, but can't see them all, I think that's the same as having the group collapsed (and hence it would be nice to see how many).

You said: "you might want to know if there are online buddies/contacts that you can't currently see."

Well, if they don't fit in the window, I can't currently see them, and I'd like to know how many are there.

comment:3 Changed 12 years ago by lschiere

  • Milestone set to 2.0.2
  • Owner set to seanegan

comment:4 Changed 12 years ago by seanegan

  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • Status changed from new to closed

There lacks consensus on whether the group counts are useful or not. I, personally, don't care for them, other people agree that they'd rather see them gone altogether. Other people would prefer to see them all the time.

Some people have a problem with the inconsistency of showing them when collapsed, but not when expanded. I think it makes sense. If you can't see the contents of the group, it may make more sense to have the count then.

Your case isn't too interesting to me: if you have so many buddies you can't see them without scrolling, I suspect it doesn't really matter if there are 50 or 55 of them.

I can't really think of any case where you're more interested in how many buddies you have, rather than which buddies you have: and that's the case you're arguing. That you want to know how many buddies you have, without scrolling to look to see which they are

If I were to make a change, it would be to remove the counts entirely, but I'll leave it as is.

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